22
Aug
11

All Jains Are Poseurs

With paryushan coming up this week, it only seems right to let my Jain relatives know how shit really is. Okay, let’s do this without abusive language because I don’t want people fainting during their eight-day fasts.

I’ll address two points here, both related to diet. Jainism forbids the consumption of onions, garlic and potatoes.

Potatoes and other root plants, according to Jain websites, have millions of bacteria, and small insects are killed during the harvest of these plants. But has any Jain ever stopped to think how we get milk and dairy products? A cow is kept in captivity all its life in a tabela for its milk which another species wants to ingest. Even calves stop drinking their mother’s milk after a point, but we humans don’t understand that it’s unnatural to drink the milk of other animals. Being milked regularly, by the way, drastically decreases the lifespan of the cow, which is worse for your karma than eating a plate of French fries, don’t you think? Think about it the next time you reach out for a glass of buttermilk.

Onions and garlic are avoided because they inflame the passion, or to put it simply, increase sexual desire. In that case, Jains should avoid movies, music and television and even books and newspapers, because these will make them hornier than anything they eat will. Hell, stop looking at attractive people too.

Now before anyone tries to defend their stance with lame points, here’s the thing: If you eat onions or garlic or potatoes, you’re not a true Jain, because you’re breaking the rules that best set you apart from the rest of the world, so don’t bother trying to justify the other choices that were made for you before you could start thinking for yourself.

And if you drink milk or consume any dairy product, you’re a participant in a practice much crueler than eating bhelpuri the way normal people eat it – with kanda, bataka ane lasan ni chutney.

So you’re not a true Jain if you eat onions, garlic or potatoes, and it has just been proved that true Jainism isn’t all that cruelty-free either, which means you’re all poseurs. Happy paryushan.


87 Responses to “All Jains Are Poseurs”


  1. 1 virali Vora
    August 22, 2011 at 01:11

    Its interesting to knw ur point of view….though false and totally uneducated, its interesting!!

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  2. 2 Anonymous
    August 22, 2011 at 05:45

    Isn’t it ironic and silly at the same time? That people still consume dairy products which emanates from a living animal such as cow which is revered in India. As you pointed out that milking the cows reduces their milk produce drastically which implies that their calves are denied their mother’s protein rich milk.

    I mean, if you see from a point of view of a foodie. How good is that food without onion and potatoes? It’s bland to be honest. Adding spice is nice and onion is what gives Indian food its delectable taste to its various cuisines. Veering back to the point that you made aptly. Isn’t Buttermilk a supplementary drink after every meal in a Jain household? I believe it is. As I have experienced it first hand as I had been to my college buddy’s home for meals on several occasions during my college days.

    Another thing I noticed is that they used to sit on the floor as it helps digestion. I am not an expert on it, but I found it very strange. No doubt, his family is very affectionate. But these little things are hard to ignore.

    But it’s not just with Jains, such practices are prevalent in all cultures that make up the social fabric of our so called “21st Century Society”. Even the Society tea is truly refreshing. On that note, “Padhao nahin, Padho!” which loosely translates to (Don’t preach, learn.) 😛

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  3. 7 mongeese boyd
    August 23, 2011 at 05:45

    every middle aged Jain i know has 2 kids. so much for onions and garlic. buttermilk is made with lactobacilli and a glass of buttermilk may contain over 5 million of those. so much for “not hurting living organisms”

    see the movie “Food Inc”.

    agree completely about the milk and the rest of the stuff.

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    • 8 SHREYANS Daga
      July 30, 2013 at 14:26

      Onions and garlic are ignored for the same reason as potatoes are ignored. It really has got nothing to do with sexual causes.I doubt this author’s sources.

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  4. August 23, 2011 at 13:00

    Hmm. I’m glad you wrote this without abuses!

    Also, this is the first I have heard of Jains not eating onions and garlic because they “inflame the passion”.

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  5. 14 Aneesh
    August 23, 2011 at 13:48

    Killing bacteria is sacrilege, but killing employees with low pay and working-saturdays is business model.

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  6. 17 Anonymous
    August 23, 2011 at 14:49

    The irony of being a Jain is that whatever you do to follow the tenets, you still cannot be absolutely non-violent. Jain scriptures denounce the consumption of milk as well. In fact, every physical action that an individual takes involves sinning including something as elementary as breathing. I’m not comparing the milk consumption to breathing but what I want to point out is that nobody can survive without sinning and that is why Jains seek forgiveness for their sins every Paryushan. All Jains try to be non-violent to an extent that is possible for them as individuals.
    Its not just potatoes, onions and garlic but almost all underground vegetables are shunned by Jains because they contain millions of micro-organisms; they are the “stems” or “roots” of the respective plants whereas other vegetables like tomatoes, lemons, etc. are the “fruits” of the respective plants which means that plucking the potatoes out would involve killing the entire plant.
    I guess you might know all this as well since you are born Jain. You are free to follow the Jain path or shun it just as other Jain youth who consume non-vegetarian food secretly. But just remember, the tenets of Jainism have significant importance in modern times because Jainism preaches non-violence and care for the environment. You can do better than criticizing Jains at least out of respect of your parents or loved ones who have faith in the doctrine.
    (There will be various arguments coming to your mind after reading this; but I won’t comment again here. If you wish to understand the message, the above explanation is enough and if you don’t then no explanation would be enough!)
    Good luck and good day!

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    • 18 Sam
      October 28, 2011 at 04:29

      Totally agree with you. Today’s Jainism in practice and Jainism in theory are too far apart. I think the human has become too lazy and too impatient for true Jainism. Having said that, I feel its our duty to make an attempt at understanding the religion before criticizing it.

      The Great Mahavira set the rules without taking into consideration the commercial “milking” practices of the Western world 2000 years before his time. In his time, the cow was not subject to the inhumane practices we see today.

      As for contemporary Jainism, don’t criticize the religion or the followers. At least they’re making an attempt.

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      • October 28, 2011 at 04:39

        If Jains can’t question whether drinking milk in today’s times is right or wrong, they ought to be criticized.

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        • 20 pavan
          August 28, 2012 at 16:07

          Criticizing is diffrent and claiming they’re poseurs is a wholetogether diffrent thing.
          You can have your own view but you can’t say that thier beliefs are superficial and claim those people are wrong 🙂
          While people may carry thier own thoughts and they maybe right but it doesn’t give any person to say that the group of people who follow a certain religion as ‘Poseurs’ as they don’t fit into your category of what actually jain’s should do ?? No hard feelings as i’ve had more than many debates about this topic and i can say one thing 🙂 Its upto a person whether he wants to believe in such a thing or not NO Person Is forced to Follow any religion Let alone Jainism

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          • August 28, 2012 at 17:34

            Do you realize what you’re saying? If there wasn’t pressure on people, most would break themselves free of religion.

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            • 22 pavan
              August 28, 2012 at 18:15

              ya well It isn’t mentioned in any jain books that a person must must and must do this i know many jains who don’t follow it 🙂 and no person can be forced into following a particular religion and even if they are forced they should be freed else it would create a inner rebel in him which would devlop a hatred not only towards the beliefs but also towards the religion altogether

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  7. August 24, 2011 at 01:43

    its the first time i am hearing about what a Jain is. But having heard, i think its a bit shitty

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  8. 25 Anonymous
    August 25, 2011 at 06:07

    I think every religion is based on many important principles and i think you have to really understand them and then put your views. May be you are correct at your position or whatever you have seen but it is not 100 % correct. Every one have some belief so dont just hurt them, I hope in your life time you will get some time to understand Jainism, May God Bless you.

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  9. 27 Anonymous
    August 25, 2011 at 06:18

    Suggestion: change your blog name to ” Mehta the Jerk Kya Kehta”
    First of all, I don’t claim to be perfect or a saint, just because I am Jain.
    P.S: I am Vegan….so please get over your generalizations, when your done being a hater that is 🙂
    Peace, Love and Jai Jinendra

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    • August 25, 2011 at 07:54

      Where have I said Jains claim to be perfect or saints? All I did was point out diet-related flaws in the philosophy. Was I wrong?

      Hail Satan!

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      • 29 Sam
        October 28, 2011 at 04:34

        Hail Satan? LOL dude get over your pseudo-“rock” culture.

        If you really want to understand the philosophy, make an attempt. Read the scriptures. Don’t generalize the religion based on your observation of the religion through your parents’ actions.

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  10. 31 Dilip Pandey
    November 14, 2011 at 12:39

    I’ve thought several times about Jainism since a close friend strictly follows his religious beliefs.
    In the world we live in, it is impossible to do anything without causing the loss of life to bacteria etc.
    Yet, i think if someone makes attempts towards abiding by as many rules as possible and not intentionally violating them then its good for them, it means some people still try and live up to something they believe in.
    Everyone is right to choose their own path and doctrine or choose none at all.
    Your post, i haven’t checked its accuracy but in general its correct but your ideology is mixed up.
    You criticise everything, fair. They believe and do what they think is correct, fair. Then why the bitterness ?
    Is it because people really do believe in something and achieve satisfaction ? Is it because they try to give meaning and purpose to their existence other than a job and education ?
    You should criticise the concept of Love, Marriage, Loyalty as well. They are all as fickle as every other belief/religion/discipline you have criticised. And by criticising i mean, you should never say you are in love or want to marry someone or expect someone to be loyal to you. It would be hypocrisy to accept Love etc.
    Hope you get what im saying. Live & Let live.

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    • 32 OnlyHuman
      July 8, 2013 at 19:42

      The most sensible comment I came across this blog
      I was a theist tuned atheist and now trying to become a theist again

      The issue is as you mentioned “people try to give meaning and purpose to their existence other than a job and education”

      and I now believe non-violence is the best way to do it…

      well how much that depends. Nobody is forcing us.
      Think of it, who wants to live in a violent society?
      Sure we cant think of the microorganisms in toady’s world.
      But we can take care of everything else, we can preserve what we’ve got. We can make others including the animals and plants happy and flourished. That will be true religion, another form of Jainism, Humanity…

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  11. 33 Kush
    June 3, 2012 at 18:25

    Jainism does recognize consumption of milk and milk products as a sin. In fact consumption of anything which causes harm to any living organism is considered a sin. It is not possible to live life without committing a few sins and that is why we have “Paryushan” – to seek forgiveness. We, jains, are supposed to do something we call “Pratikrman” every fortnight but it is not possible to do so. Which is why it is done during Paryushan.
    Jains are not poseurs.

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  12. 34 pavan
    August 28, 2012 at 16:33

    http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~pluralsm/affiliates/jainism/ahimsa/jdayaisu.htm

    I would love for you to read this once 🙂
    Especially the milk and ethics part 🙂

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    • August 28, 2012 at 17:36

      That article proves that everything I’ve said is right. Jains are poseurs. Here’s an excerpt from the article you’ve shared:

      “But there are two very odd things about our drinking cow’s milk. First, human beings are the only specie of mammal that drinks milk throughout adulthood. In other words, we are the only mammal that is never weaned. Furthermore, we are the only specie of mammal that drinks the milk of another specie! To realize how absurd this truly is, imagine a cat suckling a pig or a dog suckling a horse, or – and this is what we are truly doing when we consume milk – a human being suckling a cow’s udder.

      We have been mislead in this country to believe that milk comes from contended cows living on idyllic country homesteads, generously giving us what is meant for their babies. Nothing could be further from the truth. Dairy cows are confined to concrete stalls 10 months out of the year, attached to electric milking machines 3 times a day, and forced to produce 3 to 4 times more milk than their progenitors. They are medicated, tranquilized, implanted with hormones, artificially inseminated and kept perpetually pregnant for one purpose only – to provide continual production of milk at the cheapest possible cost.

      Their daughters are born into the same lifelong enslavement. But their sons face an even more gruesome tribulation. From birth they are chained and immobilized, forced to suffer deliberately induced anemia, and confined to wooden crates no bigger than an unfolded newspaper so that as they grow their crate becomes smaller and smaller. They are unable to experience even the most rudimentary pleasures of life such as nuzzling and nursing their mother, licking themselves, walking or even lying down! – until at the mere age of 4 months, these normally wide-eyed and frisky youngsters will be brutally slaughtered to be turned into that gastronomical delicacy called veal.

      Their mothers, spent and exhausted, will endure only 4 years of what would normally be a 20-25 year lifespan. When they can no longer produce the demanded level of milk, they will be packed onto trucks for transport to their final destination – the slaughterhouse. There is no denying the ghastliness of the dairy industry and its extricable correlation to the horrors of meat production.

      Those of us who strive and follow the path of Ahimsa must ask ourselves is this – once we are aware of and understand all of the implications and motivations behind our dietary choices, can we, in good conscience, continue to justify and rationalize choosing dairy? (An another point to consider is that we know that many of our Indian people die of heart diseases. One of the reasons is that our diet is very rich in dairy products, such as ghee, butter, cheese, and sweets, especially in the affluent Indian society. We definitely need to consider, very seriously, this link of high cholesterol and heart problems, and drastically cut down, if not totally eliminate, these milk products, for our own health, if not for cows.)”

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      • 36 pavan
        August 28, 2012 at 18:19

        thats why i posted it here im not saying you’re wrong im saying is there’s a way to adress any problem you can’t go out and start criticizing any religion bcoz you don’t get its beliefs ??? they wanna drink milk and not eat potatoes its upto them ???? Does Jainism force you to do it ??

        and i really hate this debate so really sorry won’t be replying here you can reply to me on my mail i’ve specified !!!!! 🙂 Thanks regards and no hard feelings just a healthy debate

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        • August 28, 2012 at 18:23

          Oh, no no. I’m not arguing with you. It’s just that I write all these posts when I’m really angry. I know only this one way of knocking sense into people’s heads, so I write like this. You can say anything you want here in the comments sections. I like debates. 🙂

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  13. August 28, 2012 at 20:01

    Don’t they have a Jain diary in Ahmadabad? i am guessing they have special milk coming from there.. not sure what it’s made of though..

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  14. August 28, 2012 at 20:11

    Don’t they have a Jain Milk Diary in Ahmadabad? I keep wondering what is so special about the milk that is processed there..

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  15. 40 Anonymous
    August 28, 2012 at 21:09

    You’re a narrow-minded nitwit who hasn’t been taught to respect people’s views, and have a broader view of the world.

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    • August 29, 2012 at 07:47

      On the contrary, I can see it like this because I have a broader view of the world. You can continue “respecting” the stupid views of people who are clueless about what they’re doing.

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  16. 42 sandy
    August 31, 2012 at 09:48

    Dude get your facts rite first…about onion/potatoes and about being a true jain… Who are you to comment on some one’s belief w/o even knowing about religion or a set of principle one follows… Get a better hobby / life rather then commenting.. get your facts rite with milk.. 1st of all read about jainism if you want to comment on it and read thoroughly…

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  17. 46 Cunt
    August 31, 2012 at 10:03

    All Praise the Lord!

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  18. August 31, 2012 at 10:18

    Its funny how Aditya calls Jains poseurs and bashes religion so much when he himself got so upset over some idiot stepping on a linga. And he claims to be a satanist. What an idiot. Try not being a self righteous hypocritical asshole for a change. The only poseur here is you with your ignorant rants and your emo black metal crap. Photoshopping upside down crosses on a tshirt and an album cover of Hagrid standing outside his cabin. Who’s the poseur now?

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  19. September 1, 2012 at 06:57

    I wouldn’t go so far as calling them poseurs, but it sounds hypocritical when they have that “holier than thou” attitude. I love animals, but I’m not turning vegan until someone explains to me exactly why killing/hurting plants is ok but not animals. Most people just tend to say it’s less violent…

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    • 52 OnlyHuman
      July 8, 2013 at 19:56

      There are five senses in your body. To name skin, tongue, nose, eyes and ears which senses touch, taste, smell, vision and voice.

      we cannot live without dependence on single-sensed organisms so killing them is still not OK but is unavoidable. Rest is upto you…

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    • 53 Anon
      November 13, 2013 at 04:57

      Can you really not see the difference between picking an apple off a tree, and slitting the throat of a pig? Apart from the fact that plants are necessary for human survival and animals are not, and the fact that plants have no central nervous system meaning that they can’t feel pain, I really fail to understanding how it is just ‘less violent’. If you stab a rabbit’s eye with a carrot, tell me which will feel pain more, the carrot or the rabbit?

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    • 54 ankur
      April 16, 2016 at 13:08

      because only plants can covert solar energy into edible energy so its usless to breed animals at eat them.And about the debate i think you are right in pointing this out . But calling jains poseurs is not correct coz u are ignoring all other good things.eating onion ,potatos is not correct for sure , wether drinking milk is wrong is a debatable issue . you sound like saying that if some one is doing something wrong than why that person is doing some thing else correctly .

      And i like your point that why do we need cows milk.?

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  20. November 11, 2012 at 20:04

    Some of my closest friends happen to be Jains. While they’re good people, I don’t exactly like going out on a dinner with them…no use really. I even avoid mentioning non-vegetarian foods – they’re visibly offended and uncomfortable with the sights, sound and even Google image pics of meat. Everytime I offer them things like cakes and chocolates, they double confirm to verify its vegetarian status. Well, I wouldn’t offer non-vegetarian to any practicing vegetarian but catering to Jain requirements is a tad difficult and challenging. A little bit of self-control is good for your mind and health (e.g. for alcohol consumption), but Jains and some other similar sects take this self-torture and self-denial to abnormal levels. It’s unhealthy to live in that way. You may feel “spiritually” clean but really, you’re missing out on so much more.

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  21. April 9, 2013 at 19:54

    Hello, I enjoy reading through your article. I like to write a little comment to support you.

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  22. 58 Anonymous
    October 5, 2013 at 15:13

    Jains are the biggest hipocrat on this mother earth they go in the morning to darasar and in the evening drink and eat non veg bas…ds

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    • 59 Anne
      September 8, 2014 at 19:56

      What a stupid asshole are you?! If u meet a Jain who eat non-veg that doesnt mean all are like that.I am Vegan & practice Jainism.

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    • 61 Uttar
      October 31, 2016 at 09:59

      See, the rules of vegetarian diet are applicable to Hindus, Jains etc. Many lay people are non practising , so they may eat nonveg. Calling then names or calling them hypocrites is not OK. A good majority of Jains are indeed vegetarian.
      PS: I am not a jain. I am a vegan.

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  23. 62 Anon
    November 13, 2013 at 04:53

    So very true! The hypocrisy of these Jains is outstanding. I am not putting down those that are not aware of the intense and cruel ways that milk is now obtained (and yes it happens in India too), but the ones that are, and are calling others ‘uneducated’ etc are pathetic. For a religion that is supposed to be about non violence, you they aren’t doing much for the cause are they? At least the Muslims, Jews adhere to their religion. Jains need to wake up and stop defending their sick practise , we are living in another world now, not the olden days where you just milked the cow in your background. If you have no problem in continuing to drink milk of the abused, and exploited cows by the mass dairy industry, because you can’t give up your repulsive tea or cheese, it’s serious time you evaluate your ethics and religious beliefs. The thirthankaras would be very unimpressed at the lot.

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  24. 64 Pradeep Shah
    January 24, 2014 at 16:17

    More then 90% in all religion is common & undisputed. What is common in all religion is the essence which should be understood & applied in thoughts, acts & deeds to lead happy & peace full life. Pity state is that small differences in traditions, food & lifestyle which distinguish them are considered as there religion & there identity.

    They get so much attached to this weak identity & strongly believe that this is major sector of religion.
    They are not even peacefully ready to discuss & understand true religion, instead go furious & suicidal against diverging point of view. That’s why we find major wars, riots, confrontation, ill will, enimosity. True religion should bind all despite diverging, traditions, lifestyle, food habits, climate, beliefs etc.

    True religion has to with your state of mind, thoughts, peace, happiness in both favorable & favorable situations.

    There two types of inputs we take regularly.

    1) By mouth @ 5 to 10 times a day.

    2) By Thought @ 30000 to 50000 thoughts at day.

    It is the quality of thought food that matters @ 90% & 10% by food habits & other. Even quality of food generates different quality of thoughts. Thought of violence, pleasure, pain attached with food are dangerous.

    If we analyse people @ globe by merely food habits, then vegetarians also carry similar diseases, health issues, Lifespan, Anger, ego, jealousy, greed, fear etc. compared to non vegetarians.(Note major population is non Veg.)

    Now if we analyse based on thoughts, then it is clearly observed that THOUGHT FOOD makes difference.
    People with happy, peaceful, forgiveness, satisfied thoughts, have lead healthy physical life, & immune to vices as stated above despite having diverging food habits.

    Earnest request to all JAINS is come out from religion of FOOD to religion of THOUGHTS directly.
    Yes change food habits that keep your thought elevated.
    DON’T CONFUSE YOURSELF IN FOOD. There is lot many wrongly interpreted, confusing & inconveniencing served in the name of religion. Don’t believe with blind faith, use our conman sense, read, think, discuss & then take your wise decision.

    IT IS THE VEGETARIAN THOUGHTS THAT MAKES DIFFERENCE.

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  25. 65 Aditya mehta's critic
    August 25, 2014 at 14:15

    I just wanna say aditya mehta should have been born an animal preferably a bacteria or a chicken…he wud hav got knw hw being a jain increases his lyfspan….n watevr he is barkng i bet being a human he cnt obey jainism n dats wat givng him a sense f defeat n tryng 2 let ppl blv him unless he wnt hv supporters…aditya mehta it takes guts 2 do wat jains do…atleast v try 2 do non voilence 2 an xtent v can n wat v cnt v apologize our god…evn 2 d xtent 4 askng apology 4 using tubelights n coughing wich kills bacteria…ppl lyk u can only bark rather than dng sumthng productiv…complete non voilence s posibl only wen u die…odrwiz evry step of ours kills many insects…idiot…a disgrace 2 jainism u r…

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    • August 26, 2014 at 18:55

      Being a Jain increases your lifespan? Who told you that shit? And you believed it?

      It doesn’t take “guts” to do what Jains do. It takes some will power, unless you were brought up eating Jain food. Muslims don’t require “will power” to abstain from pork, you moron.

      You’re a Jain? Which god are you talking about. Jainism doesn’t have a god, dumbass.

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  26. 67 Aditya mehta's critic
    August 25, 2014 at 14:43

    N yes ur knwledge abt lvng onion garlic is cmpletely false,onion garlic mushroom brinjal carrot potato raddish all r lft cz dey r underground n contains millions of insects….many odr things also…n 4 ur kind f info true jains do cntrl on watching tv or playng games or listening songs in days of paryushan n devote tym in prayng god….u r unaware f thngs n js barkng wid hlf knwledge…get out f ur wrld stdy in detail n den raise a finger else u btr knw wre ur fingr wud head 2….

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  27. 70 Aditya mehta's critic
    August 25, 2014 at 16:14

    N for 1 who said dat dre s no diff b/ killing of animals n plants,jains do cnsidr plants also living things its unavoidable dats y v hv 2 eat 2 survive but v apologize n jst bng a jain v r noble enuf 2 lv root vegetables…so dat plants r nt destroyd by root n dey can grow up agn unlyk a slaughtered animal….n picking leaves or fruit/vegetabl is lyk u tke ornaments f plant nt deir lives bt non veg kill animals of wich dre s no ratificatn

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  28. 72 kim jain
    September 8, 2014 at 20:55

    Hey Mr Mehta, I am Jain, I believe, try to practice Ahimsa, Anekantvad & also a Vegan since last 2 years. And I Eat Onions & garlic I believe in practicing Jainism rather than doing Pooja or rituals, but would love to go to Jain Temple & spend time as it gives peace to me, So don’t generalize and loosely use the sentence all Jains are poesuers.

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    • September 9, 2014 at 04:26

      Hey Kim, it’s awesome that you practice veganism, but eating onions and garlic (and other vegetables that grow underground) is forbidden in Jainism, so you’re actually breaking the rules and aren’t really a Jain. You’re like a Muslim who eats pork and drinks alcohol. Congrats!

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      • 74 kim jain
        September 9, 2014 at 16:54

        Mr Mehta,, Just by eating potatoes, onion or other root vegetables no one really breaks Jain rules. It is not a rule, if one can practice we get closer to Jainism, if one cannot follow for whatever reason it is not mandatory. Non-veg & alcohol are forbidden mandatory. If you have read any Jain shastra (Not any google search information) please show or quote it like ( Rankaranda Shrava achar or Jinavani or Dhavala granth).

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        • September 10, 2014 at 04:24

          Whoa whoa whoa whoa, Ms. Kim, let’s get this straight: You’re saying it’s not a rule but a means to get closer to Jainism.

          A Jain does not need to eat a certain diet to “get closer” to Jainism; you follow a certain diet because eating certain things is forbidden according to your religion. You should practice Jainism and follow its dietary guidelines because that’s what a true Jain should do; because it seems like the right thing to do; not because it brings you “closer” to your religion. In fact, you should follow the rules of Jainism because you’re a real Jain; because you’re ALREADY AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY GET to Jainism.

          Also, are you saying the information on the internet (most of it is shared by followers of Jainism) is incorrect? Have you read any Jain shastra? I’d love to read a quote that says it’s okay for Jains to eat onions, garlic, potatoes and other root vegetables.

          Next you’ll say Muslims should avoid pork and alcohol only to “get closer” to Islam, or that Gujjus should avoid non-vegetarian food to be a real Gujarati. Or that perhaps Christians should abstain from premarital sex if they want to go to heaven.

          What a load of crock.

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        • September 10, 2014 at 04:27

          Another question: As a vegan, do you not eat cheese and butter because not eating it would bring you closer to veganism or do you not eat those things because veganism is all about not using dairy/animal products at all?

          Take your time to think and answer.

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        • September 10, 2014 at 04:34

          Here is a paragraph from an article I came across ON THE INTERNET.

          GENERAL RESTRICTIONS ON PLANT BASED EDIBLES

          Vegetables and fruits that grow underground (roots of plants) are prohibited as a general rule. Clearly enough, to procure such vegetables and fruits, one must pull out the plant from the root, thus destroying the entire plant, and with it all the other micro organisms around the root. Fresh fruits and vegetables should be plucked only when ripe and ready to fall off, or ideally after they have fallen off the plant. In case they are plucked from the plants, only as much as required should be procured and consumed without waste. Grains, such as wheat, rice, maize, beans are obtained when the plants or the pods are dry and dead. Cutting down of green trees for wood or any other use is strictly prohibited. This is indeed a shining example of “conservation” in ancient times, which modern civilization is still trying to find ways for.

          Here’s the article: http://www.ivu.org/congress/2000/jainism.html

          Do enlighten me with the help of your Jain shastras; I’d love to hear you say the article is factually incorrect.

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  29. 78 Samir Bhansali
    February 5, 2015 at 06:54

    Jains eat beef too. My son loves steak

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  30. 79 WATD
    February 13, 2015 at 20:53

    jain are jerks

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  31. September 8, 2015 at 18:53

    All religions are shit.

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  32. 81 BM
    December 27, 2015 at 19:36

    ” If you eat onions or garlic or potatoes, you’re not a true Jain, because you’re breaking the rules that best set you apart from the rest of the world, so don’t bother trying to justify the other choices that were made for you before you could start thinking for yourself.”

    That’s a ridiculous claim. It’s not the dedication to non-violence that most distinguishes Jains but the avoidance of onions, garlic, and potatoes. So an infant Muslims that won’t eat his onions, garlic and potatoes is in fact a Jain in disguise because it is doing what most distinguishes the Jains?

    Your article is full of such ridiculous claims and reasoning. It’s idiotic.

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  33. 83 ankur
    April 16, 2016 at 13:29

    calling jains poseurs is not correct coz u are ignoring all other good things.eating onion ,potatos is not correct for sure , wether drinking milk is wrong is a debatable issue . you sound like saying that if some one is doing something wrong than why that person is doing some thing else correctly .
    reducing violence as much as possible brings you closer to your goal of nirvana.

    And i like your point that why do we need cows milk.?
    and two que do you eat meat or potatos.?
    do you drink milk?

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  34. 84 ankur
    April 16, 2016 at 13:45

    and from the article you quoted
    “There is always a room for improvement in our life”

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  35. 85 Anonymous
    October 1, 2016 at 11:12

    What happens when a sanyasins sees a nude naked monk and his penis. She masturbatesaid that night.

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  36. 86 Vishesh Sanghvi
    August 31, 2017 at 19:10

    First of all, Jains believe in “Harming the least NUMBER of organisms possible”. Even breathing kills microbes. You need math class to know that 1 living organism(cow) is less than the millions which get killed in an onion, though the cow doesn’t get killed if you milk her.
    Better do some homework before posting shit.
    Your post defines your insanity and increases the bar for morons.
    My email is: vishcompfreak@gmail.com
    Because I teach math for free.

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